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Good grief. Dave on the bridge in his civvies.

That would never have happened when I was there, up to 2004. Looks like he is taking that business about being liable as the true head of the entire thing as Captain of the Sea Org very seriously.

Anybody who has ever been around Dave knows that he is the alpha male on steroids. Nothing happens without his approval. All the legal cutouts, corporations, boards, ships registered in Panama and operating in international waters, numbered Swiss bank accounts and so on are just legal window dressing. Dave is the capo di tutti capi and everybody knows it.

In the Sea Org there is an issue called Flag Order 38 Etiquette. Among other things, like always walking a pace behind your senior, always using "sir" and so on (never ma'am!) it contains a few lines about the Commodore's Messengers. You are supposed to interact with a Messenger just as you would interact with Hubbard himself. Unquestioning instantaneous obedience.

On the Ship, in the old days, Hubbard would see something wrong and give an expletive-laden harangue to his messenger. Who would then try to mimic the exact words and tone to the miscreant. They were supposed to answer as though they were talking to Hubbard. "Yes Sir, sorry sir, it will never happen again Sir, please don't send me back to the RPF Sir." With a little groveling to be safe. The message would return to Hubbard via the messenger in the same way.

When Hubbard was around it was understood that Dave was one of his top Messengers. Though I don't think he ever stood a watch as Messenger On Duty. In any case, anything said or done by Dave was understood to be on the full authority of the founder of the religion, unquestionable. To even ask for clarification or mention issues about the order is called "backflash" and is dealt with harshly. The only allowable answer is "Yes Sir, immediately if not sooner Sir".

If the courts ever figure this out, RICO will have a field day. Scientology is run by one man. It benefits only him. He may or may not have suitcases full of cash in his bedroom, like Hubbard, but he doesn't need them. Anything he wants is provided out of the Sea Org Reserves fund or from local organizations. His every whim is catered to by terrified slaves. A pocket of medieval feudalism in a supposedly Democratic Republic.

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This is, as I understand it, a valid contract. The signer gets 'training in $cientology' as consideration and promises to do everything they are told to do.

The period of the contract is forever, so don't worry about that billion years thing. A billion years is not enough in this contract. Once you are dead, you are free. Who is going to claim that they came back in another lifetime are are still bound by that contract?

I would love to see a $cieno paid lawyer try to silence any critic who was never in, by invoking the 'eternal' nature of this contract by claiming that the critic was a previous life Sea bOrg member. The judge might die of laughter before making any ruling.

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