What they see on the R1 applications is only the tip of the iceberg. Mostly people come on a normal visitor's visa or pretend to be a tourist etc. and overstay their visas. Only when it looks like the authorities may look into the issue do they actually apply for an R1.
Lots of "marriages" justify overstayed visas. We saw this at the Int Base, I'm sure they do it on the Freewinds etc. If someone is really in trouble on their immigration status they can hide out on the Freewinds for decades.
Factually Scientology could not exist without labor trafficking. They simply do not make enough actual money from actual paying customers to support the thousands of staff. Huge donations help Dave with his legal issues, but he does not release the cash into the organizations to support the staff.
Really the Sea Org is just window dressing to hide the hundreds of personal slaves of Dave himself. They call it "facility differential". Someone like Hubbard or later Dave who sees themselves as important deserves lots of facilities, staff, offices, housing far in excess of the average. Because in their eyes they contribute so much more. All that comes with a veritable army of cleaners, secretaries, hand-holders and sycophants. All completely dependent on the boss for their very lives.
If they were paid, and had actual careers, they might make choices about how to spend their time. They might even challenge Dave a tiny bit. Can't have that!
It's about as religious as the old Soviet Union. Dachas and Zils for the commissars, the Gulag for the dissidents. When I got out, for a time I was repairing computers. I visited several actual monasterial facilities, notably the Sisters of Mercy and the Poor Clares. They were all living like royalty compared to the Sea Org.
With the new crackdown on all immigrants and visa applications I am wondering how Scientology will safepoint themselves with the new unpredictable immigration department?
I suspect that Trump will wave his hand and say “Scientologists, great religion, great group of people! Let them in, let them in.” Thank you Trish Duggan, Grant Cardone and John P. Coale.
Just how many people with R-1 visas are actually working at Flag right now? The math works out to about 236 applications for year just for Flag, of which 114 are new applications each year (just less than half), if my math is right (which is probably isn't). Are there really 1182 foreign workers stuffed into Flag? (Of course there are not; most of these people are probably trafficked to higher-ups and whales & whale businesses to provide free/cheap labor without the burden of little things that "wogs" care about like "cost of living" or "health care".)
Do the r-1 renewals reflect any escapes? What happens when a R-1visa holder runs away from the CO$? Yeah, I bet many of those visa holders are making beds and cutting grass in Clearwater.
Now, if they were cutting grass and making beds at Mar a Lago, they would not be 'religious' workers. Just cheap labor. But that is what everyone in $cientology is, cheap labor.
If someone is coming in temporarily to get trained - e.g. the FEBC course - before returning to their org, do they come in as a "tourist"? On an R-1? Something else?
I think the applications are dwindling on countries where people are more informed about the abuses of SCN, whereas Ecuador and other Central, Latin and/or South American country folks may not be.
I don't like immigration, but in this case, I can see the benefit. However, I feel people ha e to be responsible for themselves. When they realize they were lied to, perhaps they have the wherewithal to return or to somewhere else. There's also the Michael J. Do see Aftermath Foundation they can contact.
It is definitely labor trafficking.
What they see on the R1 applications is only the tip of the iceberg. Mostly people come on a normal visitor's visa or pretend to be a tourist etc. and overstay their visas. Only when it looks like the authorities may look into the issue do they actually apply for an R1.
Lots of "marriages" justify overstayed visas. We saw this at the Int Base, I'm sure they do it on the Freewinds etc. If someone is really in trouble on their immigration status they can hide out on the Freewinds for decades.
Factually Scientology could not exist without labor trafficking. They simply do not make enough actual money from actual paying customers to support the thousands of staff. Huge donations help Dave with his legal issues, but he does not release the cash into the organizations to support the staff.
Really the Sea Org is just window dressing to hide the hundreds of personal slaves of Dave himself. They call it "facility differential". Someone like Hubbard or later Dave who sees themselves as important deserves lots of facilities, staff, offices, housing far in excess of the average. Because in their eyes they contribute so much more. All that comes with a veritable army of cleaners, secretaries, hand-holders and sycophants. All completely dependent on the boss for their very lives.
If they were paid, and had actual careers, they might make choices about how to spend their time. They might even challenge Dave a tiny bit. Can't have that!
It's about as religious as the old Soviet Union. Dachas and Zils for the commissars, the Gulag for the dissidents. When I got out, for a time I was repairing computers. I visited several actual monasterial facilities, notably the Sisters of Mercy and the Poor Clares. They were all living like royalty compared to the Sea Org.
With the new crackdown on all immigrants and visa applications I am wondering how Scientology will safepoint themselves with the new unpredictable immigration department?
I suspect that Trump will wave his hand and say “Scientologists, great religion, great group of people! Let them in, let them in.” Thank you Trish Duggan, Grant Cardone and John P. Coale.
Just how many people with R-1 visas are actually working at Flag right now? The math works out to about 236 applications for year just for Flag, of which 114 are new applications each year (just less than half), if my math is right (which is probably isn't). Are there really 1182 foreign workers stuffed into Flag? (Of course there are not; most of these people are probably trafficked to higher-ups and whales & whale businesses to provide free/cheap labor without the burden of little things that "wogs" care about like "cost of living" or "health care".)
Do the r-1 renewals reflect any escapes? What happens when a R-1visa holder runs away from the CO$? Yeah, I bet many of those visa holders are making beds and cutting grass in Clearwater.
Now, if they were cutting grass and making beds at Mar a Lago, they would not be 'religious' workers. Just cheap labor. But that is what everyone in $cientology is, cheap labor.
If someone is coming in temporarily to get trained - e.g. the FEBC course - before returning to their org, do they come in as a "tourist"? On an R-1? Something else?
Lots of Pakistanis and Russians came to Cincinnati Org on R-1 visas. Turkey is another country that should be noted.
I think the applications are dwindling on countries where people are more informed about the abuses of SCN, whereas Ecuador and other Central, Latin and/or South American country folks may not be.
I don't like immigration, but in this case, I can see the benefit. However, I feel people ha e to be responsible for themselves. When they realize they were lied to, perhaps they have the wherewithal to return or to somewhere else. There's also the Michael J. Do see Aftermath Foundation they can contact.