Correct me if Im wrong, but I believe that lawyers for the criminal organisation known as the "church" of $cientology have stated in court that everything L RonHubbard wrote was part of the sacred religious scripture of the Co$.
So, necrophilia and underage sex, or not, it's all very, very, religious.
In the 70’s when Hubbard was on the Apollo his yacht, his pride and joy were the Commodores Messengers. Boys and girls specifically trained to be Ron’s eyes and ears and also cater to his every need. When I was there it was clear that there was a lot of crew sexual activity going on including the messengers.
I did not ever detect that Hubbard was involved in that. I do feel he enjoyed the attention of all the young girls in their miniskirts and boys in their blue uniforms and gold braids. Hubbard wrote policies on how non-survival sex was. He set up the perfect push-pull to mess with our heads. The atmosphere on that ship was supercharged with sexual repression.
Hubbards fiction legacy certainly came from his trope “write what you know”. He was one sick ——-.
Something odd about all this. I could swear I saw an MS of a Hubbard fiction work in John Mustard's office when he was Manufacturing Secretary at Bridge Publications. This would have to have been before I got RPFed in 1983. Maybe it was "Battlefield Earth"?
John was bragging that he was impelled to review the MS, wink wink nod nod. All of us true believing Scientologists were salivating at the thought of reading a Hubbard fiction work.
But as soon as I got to the Int Base, on the RPF in 1983 the word we were told was that Hubbard needed to record ten music albums. We were there to build a music studio for the project. One for each volume of Mission Earth, to be released in tandem with the novels. So the project must have at least reached the planning stage by then. Possibly the writing was in some kind of outline form, enough to make a full "dekalogy" of it without knowing the details.
In any case the project was well along even in 1983. So why wait to release it until 1986? Too rough on the ghost writers? I can imagine it was hard sledding, making all that garbage from Hubbard make any kind of sense. Maybe they wanted to get the "All Clear" first so he could do a more public release. Of course, that never happened.
There are musical bits all through the novels, one of which is this scene. Some lyrics were done, like the fabled "Teach me". "Teach me, teach me right now, tell me how, to reach the top. Please don't stop it now." Sad to say, I can recite that from memory. They didn't use that song in the audiobook, seems like the producers didn't know about it or didn't connect the obvious dots.
Only one album was finally produced, long after the book releases. Like the book, it fell like a stone into obscurity despite the involvement of the famous Edgar Winter. Maybe because it is too bad to even become a cult hit? Seems like a porno producer might have an interest, but even porno draws the line at necrophilia.
Scientology, here to create a world without criminals, insanity or war. But with sexual depravity to make up for the loss. That Hubbard, what a kidder!
That's 8 minutes of life I'll never get back. Some of background noises reminded me of Firesign Theater, but those noises disappeared fairly quickly. I find the production values wanting. Wanting for any value.
Tennie had 'influence'... The Hubster called it 'leverage' in BE. I wonder if Lroon tried to set up orgies in his diaspora? His sex scenes are rather homo erotic.
If you really want to annoy someone, take this 'book' and play it at loud volumes on an airplane. Your seat mates will want to strangle you after Chapter 6.
An odd point, that famous first chapter of "Battlefield Earth" that has Terl yammering on and on about "leverage" must have been written during or soon after the Snow White program. He was fictionalizing about something his wife actually did. Infiltrating government offices and stealing "leverage". Maybe he dreamed of emulating J. Edgar Hoover. Maybe to some degree he actually succeeded. Scientology seems oddly bulletproof these days.
That was 8 minutes of sick writing. In only 8 minutes of listening, one character was sleeping with his mother followed by a homo erotic scene. I once read a science fiction short story by Hubbard from his early days of writing that I didn't think was half bad. The Mission Earth series was written in the last few years of his life. I imagine dementia was starting to set in and his mind was becoming sicker and sicker.
Hubbard's books must have been artificially best sellers when Scientology was buying its own books. I was in a large bookstore in Toronto years ago. The manager told me that every Saturday, two women from the Toronto org would come in and purchase every Scientology book in the store. The store would of course automatically order more. His books may have been best sellers, but that doesn't mean millions of people were reading them as it is with most best-selling authors. L. Ron Hubbard was not a successful author, but he was likely the most successful con man in history.
Majorly missing in Hubbard's quackery therapy and exorcism setup, are policies to turn over alleged felons to police.
Scientology being a "therapy" type of practice, where people will come in to Scientology and admit to felonies, Hubbard failed to set up regulations turning over alleged felons to police.
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Staffs of a "church" in Michigan, in the early 1980s, had a new recruit admit to a felony, and without any rules or regulations, the felony was murder, the staff and new recruit went to police, the recruit admitted the felony, and was punished accordingly.
That was done without any "OSA" intervention, but by the staff and recruit themselves.
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This is a serious flaw Hubbard left in the movement.
On the internet, I asked what do Catholic Priests do and this was the answer:
"....Under the "seal of the confessional," Catholic priests cannot report a murder confessed during the Sacrament of Penance, even to law enforcement. The priest's duty is to the penitent's spiritual well-being, while also strongly encouraging them to turn themselves in to civil authorities. ....."
Minimally Scientology rules would be to guide a felony admitting Scientologist to "turn themselves in to civil authorities...." ("....strongly encouraging them to turn themselves in to civil authorities....")
THAT is minimally what Scientology should do.
THAT is what is missing in Scientology, and it's due to Hubbard's omissions.
In the Danny Masterson "case" that is what Scientology ought to have done. (As ludicrous as it seemed, I thought a fellow "high" celebrity, even Tom Cruise, ought to have acted as a temporary "Volunteer Ethics Officer" to Danny, and gotten Danny to confess to police, and end Danny's fight to not own up for Danny's rapes that Danny was finally convicted of.)
Or even David Miscavige ought to have strongly (and we know what "strongly" means to Miscavige) gotten Danny to turn himself in.
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Hubbard did write a policy, to deal with his "omissions" in policy.
Here's that Hubbard policy, about "advising management" about omitted policies:
"......THE DUTY AND PURPOSE OF A PUBLIC RELATIONS MAN IS:
THE INTERPRETATION OF TOP MANAGEMENT POLICY TO THE
DIFFERENT PUBLICS OF THE COMPANY-TO ADVISE TOP
MANAGEMENT SO THAT POLICY IF LACKING CAN BE SET-TO
MAKE THE COMPANY, ITS ACTIONS OR PRODUCTS KNOWN,ACCEPTED
AND UNDERSTOOD BY THE DIFFERENT PUBLICS -
AND TO ASSIST THE COMPANY TO EXIST IN A FAVORABLE
OPERATING CLIMATE SO THAT IT CAN EXPAND, PROSPER
AND BE VIABLE......"
This is weeds that no one in Scientology history has yet thought to employ to fix this major omitted Hubbard "policy" regulation problem.
Scientology under a dictator like Miscavige could "...strongly encourag[e]...." their alleged felony committing members to "...turn themselves into civil authorities..."
As is Catholic church policy, per the internet.
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I realize this is all pie in the sky cult improvement babble I'm proposing here.
But Hubbard's babble does horrendously corral the followers in bad choices, and this "omitted policy" addition Hubbard loophole, would be among hundreds of other Hubbard regulations revisions needed to make this Hubbard mess a sane societal partner group.
Best, as is the consensus, is expose Scientology until it self evaporates.
Hubbard's written output is so offensive, that study of Hubbard's output makes for a sickening task.
How could this be that way?
The only way I saw it might be "therapeutic" to have evil persons read Hubbard's evil characters' evil deeds, and then those evil persons admit similar evil deeds "in session" when receiving the Hubbard quack therapy, and thus "release" or "clear" themselves of their evil intentions to ultimately then discontinue doing these evil deeds, to thus remove this evil from society.
The Hubbard quack therapy is supposed to eliminate a person's evil intentions to do these evil deeds.
The way I saw the evil in Hubbard's characters' minds was Hubbard was throwing out a net to those in society with evil in their minds, to catch them, get them gathered to do Hubbard's "therapy" and "cleared" or "released" from their mental evil. That to me was Hubbard's big picture motives, and how I justified even staying in Scientology, as these Hubbard ludicrously plotted books with evil characters rolled out.
I lived through each volume being released and I stayed up on reading each, within a month, of each being released. I was a diehard reader of all I could of Hubbard's horrible output.
L. Ron Hubbard's "legacy". Of course at CST/Archives, the "LRH originals" of this manuscript is kept side by side with other of Hubbard's fiction writings, also preserved there at CST/Archives as part of the Hubbard "legacy," adjacent to the non fiction Hubbard archived items.
So, yes, if an unhindered curious visitor to CST/Archives were given full access, they'd find at this Sea Org staffed "Sea Org" mini base, LRH's fiction works and manuscripts, all tidily upkept by Sea Org members.
So like Ze Mooo says, in addition to Scientology lawyers' statements, the Scientologists' highest dedicated staffs, physically, preserve all of Hubbard's final "works" which are treated equally to Scientology's meticulous preservation methods, per Hubbard's orders.
Correct me if Im wrong, but I believe that lawyers for the criminal organisation known as the "church" of $cientology have stated in court that everything L RonHubbard wrote was part of the sacred religious scripture of the Co$.
So, necrophilia and underage sex, or not, it's all very, very, religious.
In the 70’s when Hubbard was on the Apollo his yacht, his pride and joy were the Commodores Messengers. Boys and girls specifically trained to be Ron’s eyes and ears and also cater to his every need. When I was there it was clear that there was a lot of crew sexual activity going on including the messengers.
I did not ever detect that Hubbard was involved in that. I do feel he enjoyed the attention of all the young girls in their miniskirts and boys in their blue uniforms and gold braids. Hubbard wrote policies on how non-survival sex was. He set up the perfect push-pull to mess with our heads. The atmosphere on that ship was supercharged with sexual repression.
Hubbards fiction legacy certainly came from his trope “write what you know”. He was one sick ——-.
Something odd about all this. I could swear I saw an MS of a Hubbard fiction work in John Mustard's office when he was Manufacturing Secretary at Bridge Publications. This would have to have been before I got RPFed in 1983. Maybe it was "Battlefield Earth"?
John was bragging that he was impelled to review the MS, wink wink nod nod. All of us true believing Scientologists were salivating at the thought of reading a Hubbard fiction work.
But as soon as I got to the Int Base, on the RPF in 1983 the word we were told was that Hubbard needed to record ten music albums. We were there to build a music studio for the project. One for each volume of Mission Earth, to be released in tandem with the novels. So the project must have at least reached the planning stage by then. Possibly the writing was in some kind of outline form, enough to make a full "dekalogy" of it without knowing the details.
In any case the project was well along even in 1983. So why wait to release it until 1986? Too rough on the ghost writers? I can imagine it was hard sledding, making all that garbage from Hubbard make any kind of sense. Maybe they wanted to get the "All Clear" first so he could do a more public release. Of course, that never happened.
There are musical bits all through the novels, one of which is this scene. Some lyrics were done, like the fabled "Teach me". "Teach me, teach me right now, tell me how, to reach the top. Please don't stop it now." Sad to say, I can recite that from memory. They didn't use that song in the audiobook, seems like the producers didn't know about it or didn't connect the obvious dots.
Only one album was finally produced, long after the book releases. Like the book, it fell like a stone into obscurity despite the involvement of the famous Edgar Winter. Maybe because it is too bad to even become a cult hit? Seems like a porno producer might have an interest, but even porno draws the line at necrophilia.
Scientology, here to create a world without criminals, insanity or war. But with sexual depravity to make up for the loss. That Hubbard, what a kidder!
That's 8 minutes of life I'll never get back. Some of background noises reminded me of Firesign Theater, but those noises disappeared fairly quickly. I find the production values wanting. Wanting for any value.
Tennie had 'influence'... The Hubster called it 'leverage' in BE. I wonder if Lroon tried to set up orgies in his diaspora? His sex scenes are rather homo erotic.
If you really want to annoy someone, take this 'book' and play it at loud volumes on an airplane. Your seat mates will want to strangle you after Chapter 6.
An odd point, that famous first chapter of "Battlefield Earth" that has Terl yammering on and on about "leverage" must have been written during or soon after the Snow White program. He was fictionalizing about something his wife actually did. Infiltrating government offices and stealing "leverage". Maybe he dreamed of emulating J. Edgar Hoover. Maybe to some degree he actually succeeded. Scientology seems oddly bulletproof these days.
I didn't want to listen to his deranged writings. I am aware of enough awful things going on. Glad I didn't waste 8 minutes.
That was 8 minutes of sick writing. In only 8 minutes of listening, one character was sleeping with his mother followed by a homo erotic scene. I once read a science fiction short story by Hubbard from his early days of writing that I didn't think was half bad. The Mission Earth series was written in the last few years of his life. I imagine dementia was starting to set in and his mind was becoming sicker and sicker.
Hubbard's books must have been artificially best sellers when Scientology was buying its own books. I was in a large bookstore in Toronto years ago. The manager told me that every Saturday, two women from the Toronto org would come in and purchase every Scientology book in the store. The store would of course automatically order more. His books may have been best sellers, but that doesn't mean millions of people were reading them as it is with most best-selling authors. L. Ron Hubbard was not a successful author, but he was likely the most successful con man in history.
Majorly missing in Hubbard's quackery therapy and exorcism setup, are policies to turn over alleged felons to police.
Scientology being a "therapy" type of practice, where people will come in to Scientology and admit to felonies, Hubbard failed to set up regulations turning over alleged felons to police.
-----------------------------
Staffs of a "church" in Michigan, in the early 1980s, had a new recruit admit to a felony, and without any rules or regulations, the felony was murder, the staff and new recruit went to police, the recruit admitted the felony, and was punished accordingly.
That was done without any "OSA" intervention, but by the staff and recruit themselves.
--------------------------------
This is a serious flaw Hubbard left in the movement.
On the internet, I asked what do Catholic Priests do and this was the answer:
"....Under the "seal of the confessional," Catholic priests cannot report a murder confessed during the Sacrament of Penance, even to law enforcement. The priest's duty is to the penitent's spiritual well-being, while also strongly encouraging them to turn themselves in to civil authorities. ....."
Minimally Scientology rules would be to guide a felony admitting Scientologist to "turn themselves in to civil authorities...." ("....strongly encouraging them to turn themselves in to civil authorities....")
THAT is minimally what Scientology should do.
THAT is what is missing in Scientology, and it's due to Hubbard's omissions.
In the Danny Masterson "case" that is what Scientology ought to have done. (As ludicrous as it seemed, I thought a fellow "high" celebrity, even Tom Cruise, ought to have acted as a temporary "Volunteer Ethics Officer" to Danny, and gotten Danny to confess to police, and end Danny's fight to not own up for Danny's rapes that Danny was finally convicted of.)
Or even David Miscavige ought to have strongly (and we know what "strongly" means to Miscavige) gotten Danny to turn himself in.
---------------------------------------
Hubbard did write a policy, to deal with his "omissions" in policy.
Here's that Hubbard policy, about "advising management" about omitted policies:
"......THE DUTY AND PURPOSE OF A PUBLIC RELATIONS MAN IS:
THE INTERPRETATION OF TOP MANAGEMENT POLICY TO THE
DIFFERENT PUBLICS OF THE COMPANY-TO ADVISE TOP
MANAGEMENT SO THAT POLICY IF LACKING CAN BE SET-TO
MAKE THE COMPANY, ITS ACTIONS OR PRODUCTS KNOWN,ACCEPTED
AND UNDERSTOOD BY THE DIFFERENT PUBLICS -
AND TO ASSIST THE COMPANY TO EXIST IN A FAVORABLE
OPERATING CLIMATE SO THAT IT CAN EXPAND, PROSPER
AND BE VIABLE......"
This is weeds that no one in Scientology history has yet thought to employ to fix this major omitted Hubbard "policy" regulation problem.
Scientology under a dictator like Miscavige could "...strongly encourag[e]...." their alleged felony committing members to "...turn themselves into civil authorities..."
As is Catholic church policy, per the internet.
---------------------------------
I realize this is all pie in the sky cult improvement babble I'm proposing here.
But Hubbard's babble does horrendously corral the followers in bad choices, and this "omitted policy" addition Hubbard loophole, would be among hundreds of other Hubbard regulations revisions needed to make this Hubbard mess a sane societal partner group.
Best, as is the consensus, is expose Scientology until it self evaporates.
I asked Amy Scobee, a decade or more ago, "What policy was Miscavige employing" for his high level browbeating tirades.
Two policies, she said, were "Knowledge Reports" and "Corrupt Activites."
Miscavige during several decades, employed horrendously tyrant browbeating of Int Base underlings.
It's relevant to read what Hubbard said in the 1982 "Corrupt Activities" policy.
"......very stern, direct confrontation with the culprit in private..."
To get Danny to quit his appeal, and publicly admit guilt, Scientologists of higher moral stature ought go visit Danny and get him to own up.
Hubbard's written output is so offensive, that study of Hubbard's output makes for a sickening task.
How could this be that way?
The only way I saw it might be "therapeutic" to have evil persons read Hubbard's evil characters' evil deeds, and then those evil persons admit similar evil deeds "in session" when receiving the Hubbard quack therapy, and thus "release" or "clear" themselves of their evil intentions to ultimately then discontinue doing these evil deeds, to thus remove this evil from society.
The Hubbard quack therapy is supposed to eliminate a person's evil intentions to do these evil deeds.
The way I saw the evil in Hubbard's characters' minds was Hubbard was throwing out a net to those in society with evil in their minds, to catch them, get them gathered to do Hubbard's "therapy" and "cleared" or "released" from their mental evil. That to me was Hubbard's big picture motives, and how I justified even staying in Scientology, as these Hubbard ludicrously plotted books with evil characters rolled out.
I lived through each volume being released and I stayed up on reading each, within a month, of each being released. I was a diehard reader of all I could of Hubbard's horrible output.
L. Ron Hubbard's "legacy". Of course at CST/Archives, the "LRH originals" of this manuscript is kept side by side with other of Hubbard's fiction writings, also preserved there at CST/Archives as part of the Hubbard "legacy," adjacent to the non fiction Hubbard archived items.
So, yes, if an unhindered curious visitor to CST/Archives were given full access, they'd find at this Sea Org staffed "Sea Org" mini base, LRH's fiction works and manuscripts, all tidily upkept by Sea Org members.
So like Ze Mooo says, in addition to Scientology lawyers' statements, the Scientologists' highest dedicated staffs, physically, preserve all of Hubbard's final "works" which are treated equally to Scientology's meticulous preservation methods, per Hubbard's orders.