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Michele Desoer's avatar

Ugh. I don't have the energy to read through all that gobbledegook hogwash. Just gibberish.

Ze Mooo's avatar

"The only way out is through." This became a bedrock of $cientology in later years. As for the rest of the tome, I see influence from EE 'Doc' Smith and Robert Heinlein. 'The universe doesn't care' is straight out of some Heinlein story and all that 'electronic ridges' and associated electronic crap seems to be from Smith's Lensman novels. Note the total negation of 'morals' or concern for others. Lron was the most selfish 'philosopher' of the 1950's. All so he could command an army of minions programmed to pay him and worship him.

Chuck Beatty's avatar

Hubbard took his own advice, to "build a better bridge" from his final pages of the Dianetics "book 1" final chapter, and you see he self hypnotized himself to keep pushing his con for the rest of his life.

Christopher Hitchens and Lawrence Wright endcapped Hubbard's con man buying his own crap "postulations".

I think it hilarious that XENU foils Hubbard, and Hubbard created XENU, what a stupid mistake on Hubbard's part.

Hubbard reeks of wannabe megalomania, wishing to become his George Smiley (the guru "god") character written in Hubbard's 1940s "One Was Stubborn" novelette.

Hubbard created Xenu, and made Xenu a taboo word that supposedly fries Scientologists' brains, LOL. What an idiot Hubbard.

Which is why I still think, a neat nice "XENU SWAG AND GIFTS SHOP" near downtown Clearwater would be a physical foil taming Hubbard's cult, until the cult dissolves.

Hail Xenu.

CuriousInChicago's avatar

"And the ability to make a strong postulate alone is capable of controlling the health and beingness of others." <-- And yet so many Scientologists have major health issues, die of cancer, etc. So, either the tech doesn't work or no high-level Scientologists care to help those in need. Not good options there.

Techie's avatar

My grandma, who was born in 1896, used to say: "If wishes were horses, beggars would ride!" Another great one: "You're not the only pebble on the beach. There's a Little Rock in Arkansas!" Not very patient with fools, she tried hard to talk me out of joining the Sea Org. Of course I didn't listen.

Chuck Beatty's avatar

Great Grandmothers!

Jens TINGLEFF's avatar

𝘛𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘢 𝘶𝘯𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘴𝘱𝘢𝘤𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘦𝘯𝘦𝘳𝘨𝘺, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘪𝘧 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘸𝘢𝘯𝘵 𝘵𝘰 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘪𝘵, 𝘺𝘰𝘶’𝘷𝘦 𝘨𝘰𝘵 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘦 𝘵𝘰 ̶c̶o̶m̶m̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶s̶p̶a̶c̶e̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶e̶n̶e̶r̶g̶y̶.̶ ̶ 𝘦𝘮𝘱𝘵𝘺 𝘺𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘸𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘦𝘵 𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘙𝘦𝘨𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘳'𝘴 𝘥𝘦𝘴𝘬

Chuck Beatty's avatar

Hubbard's con man postulates are evidenced by the whole crappile cult bureaucracies of Scientology today.

Hitchens and Arthur C. Clarke, what they said of Hubbard is all one needs know.

Techie's avatar

He read a Reader's Digest article about Immanuel Kant and ran it through his "I AM THE GREATEST" filter. Pretty funny for someone whose greatest achievement was forcing his own mental illness on millions of others.

Lots of people have speculated that reality isn't real, from Plato's cave to the Matrix. Whatever. But notice his prescription for freedom from Maya. Not contemplation or reason or the search for transcendent truth. Not love for your fellow man and for God. Not right thinking. More like the old 70s beer commercial: "You only go around once in this life, so you have to grab for all the gusto you can get! Schlitz!"

Jon Atack speculates that Hubbard suffered from temporal lobe epilepsy. One of the symptoms of which is called "logorrhea". A good example is recorded here.

Chuck Beatty's avatar

Also, wishing to be his own characters from his books, namely his wishing to be the George Smiley character from the Hubbard 1940 story, "One Was Stubborn."

Of note, George Smiley was successful, in fiction, but Hubbard has not been successful, and even Hubbard admitted, superficially and only briefly, to Sarge, as told in the end of Lawrence Wright's book.

Hubbard's megalomania fails, as fail all megalomania people.

No "OTs".

You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

CAUTION: Megalomaniacs have never succeeded, they're chasing unreal "fever dreams" (as Jamie Mustard uses that term recently for the Hubbard "fever dream.")

The Hubbard logorrhea mixed with the Hubbard obsession for a captive audience and "building a better bridge" mousetrap, quackery cult trap, prison of belief, bricolage of soul crap ideas, into like one of Hubbard's own books' characters, the successful cult guru "George Smiley" of the 1940 Hubbard story.

Skip Scientology absolutely.

Chuck Beatty's avatar

For history, on some of "our" old Grade Charts (The Bridge to Total Freedom charts listing out the whole Hubbard quackery stepladder, both receiving all the ladder steps, and for training to be the quack pseudo-therapist-exorcist practitioner of the Hubbard quackery) for OT 3, the first exorcism ladder step it mentions the ability gained:

freedom from overwhelm

In truth, doing Hubbard's quackery mammoth full enchilada mind bombardment, you are completely overwhelmed with his quackery theoretical nonsense.

Scientology in fact is OVERWHELMING BS indoctrination.

It is not freedom from overwhelm.

It's buying into a massive snipe-hunting long con operation, and you get totally overwhelmed by your followership and staff roles in this long cult Hubbard con.

(Of the whole Hubbard crap pile to me, XENU is just the best backfiring word Hubbard ever created.)

Chuck Beatty's avatar

I was at the lower end intellectually, very sub par, of a philosophy major, then dropout in my final year of credits to graduate, from Arizona State University. I horribly stupidly thought I'd check into the "soul" Hubbard teachings, and today's article I see in my imperfect understanding of "dualism" and "materialism" the terms simply that are the building blocks of understanding Hubbard's really bad lectures about Hubbard's early "Scientology" beliefs.

He's just saying do his quackery (the Hubbard Scientology pseudo-therapy) which at this time, people could delve into their past lives memories, and leap into the "earlier similar" building blocks principles of being an "early soul" in the universe, and all the accumulating "postulates" which are just your volilitional willing intentions, strong ones, because in Hubbardism, each of us conscious awareness of awareness units, our core being, is a soul. The Hubbard "thetan" word which is such a piece of BS wordage three cup monte word made-up unnecessary word even. It reeks of Hubbard's self pretension which ought repel anyone from even continuing study Hubbard's crap pile.

(Important side note: The Oxford University Dictionary, the huge historical one, has three Scientology words in it, put in the 1989 edition, this current edition of it: THETA, DIANETICS and SCIENTOLOGY. Important, I think, is careful study of what OED chose to select and quote, for these three words, it's about as graceful as the outside intellectual world considers of Hubbard's "science" beliefs in the soul and in "theta." OED grants "THETA" some traction, and puts THETA as the building block of thetans, which is relevant to this dualism article today, of Hubbard's blather crap quoted here.)

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Hinduism believes in transmigrating souls.

Buddhism says that the soul vanishes and reappears in the newly born humans and other life forms, depending on that karmic bundle unextinguished causing that reappearance of that karmic force. (Everything is impermanent and this is stressed in Buddhism, including "things" like the soul and consciousness, the self, etc, and doing the meditative exercises is how "you" get the "reigns" back and reach nibbana.) Versus Hubbard's rejuvenate the soul, unburden the soul of it's harmful past lives memories, and do the Hubbard "OT" exercise and you become a better soul and regain your supernormal powers to do better things in the world.

Buddhism, I'm studying the Pali Canon (finished two of the five books so far, the Majjhima Nikaya, the Digha Nikaya, and I"m at the beginning of the Samyutta Nikaya, meaning I have 2 and 3/4's more of the Buddha's discourses of the Pali Canon volumes to still read), just the texts of it. (I'm just reading source Buddha discourses of the Pali Canon, NO extra books, other than by monks/bhikkhus, Walpola and Bhikkhu Bodhi books/talks.)

So far, I've learned by comparison, Hubbard's ideas would fit in with simply the Hindu idea of the soul, simply.

Hubbard's idea of the soul (thetan) does not fit with the Buddha's idea of the soul, he thinks the soul is impermanent and not a real thing, but just a phase of consciousness which is also not a thing but also just a phase of sub parts that you learn by meditation to disassemble from.

But Hubbard thinks us, the soul, have powers. And we're like fallen "gods" small G. We're not yet back to even the Greek gods powers of course (it's all BS to me, the more you compare Hubbard's idea of the soul, the more you see Hubbard is just half assed spread among various ideas of the souls "supernormal" powers).

Buddhism, I'd say has 10 steps, and the supernormal powers, can come up to a meditator, and from my readings so far, this will happen around Jhana 4 step. I don't buy the Buddha's discourses Pali Canon talks about these supernormal powers, to me, they are clearly hallucinatory brain output we delude ourselves is "real." It's all BS to me, I'm an atheist materialist Buddhist layman follower.

Thankfully, you can read and just mentally skip over the Buddhism discourses material on the supernormal stuff, and still get benefit from the meditation exercises.

I'm a born again atheist meaning I was an atheist going into Scientology/Hubbard's teachings and was born again atheist quitting it, and years after quitting, I'm back to just studying the Pali Canon discourses part of Theravada Buddhism.

Anyways the drift, Hubbard says use his quack Scientology two person soul-therapy, and be a better "theta bundle" and unleash your control over your theta power, is all.

He's stuck in thinking developing the realm of the supernormal powers, is legit focus.

The Buddha did not think other than if a meditator did run into all their supernormal powers, so be it, and the Buddha brags sort of, and in the Pali Canon you read of times he demonstrated some of his supernormal powers. (Me, the supernormal is hallucination, if you think you have supernormal powers, you don't, it's the same hallucination crazy people, or powerful hallucination drugs let you believe are real, but it's not real, it's in your head as real is all.)

To me, that's the BS part of Buddhism, which I as an atheist just don't buy. (I just study and utilize the meditative and theoretical "non supernormal" ideas from the Pali Canon.)

And thankfully you don't have to develop these supernormal powers to DIY use the Pali Canon discourses ideas of the Buddha to straight do the meditation exercises and upper steps of the final steps in Pali Canon Buddhism, and calm things quite nicely.

Hubbard's confusing blather, is waste of time, and indicative of his shoddiness.

IMPORTANT: Chapter 1 of Martin Gardner's "Fads and Fallacies..." book which lays out the criteria of a crank crackpot, which Hubbard fits the mold of a crank crackpot.

https://rexresearch1.com/GardnerMath/FadsFallaciesNameScienceGardner.pdf

Those points are why skipping Hubbard's crap is the right move.