I’ve always found that account to be so haunting. Like he had walked into another reality, not knowing how long it would last. He was with the “real” Hubbard for that fleeting time; a man who was desperately insecure, titanically needy, and utterly unable to meet others on a shared emotional plane. But how? Did he catch him on the right drugs? In some psychotic break that produced a moment of clarity and honesty? We’ll never know, but we have Nairn’s amazing account of the pre dawn encounter where for a brief time, the con man allowed himself to be genuine with another person. I doubt it ever happened again.
Nairn’s story corroborates my impressions of Hubbard when I worked with him on the ship in 1974. I was a true believer then but at the same time i was not afraid to speak my mind regarding a song he wanted produced. Got me in big trouble but he didn’t bust me. There was a certain respect for me he did not have for the rest of the crew. I lasted for 6 month on the ship.
The biggest impression I took away was a man starved for admiration and attention. That addiction drove him to enslave the minds of many good intentioned individuals who wanted to help people. Even after leaving the sea Org it took me 40 years to leave Scientology. Hubbard’s conversation with Nairn is one of the few times L. Ron spoke the the truth.
".... how could Hubbard have ever got away from the monster he created?...." - from the article.
This conversation, and then the Sarge conversation, two times Hubbard was frank about the "monster" he'd created.
Hubbard also comes across really as "mental" too, mixed in. His ridiculous "The only mad man is the one who doesn't admit he's a madman...." (after just answering yes, he does think he's a mad man, to Nairn's question that does end the 1968 interview, which really IS why "Madman or Messiah" title is core truth there!). Nairn did get that at least!
Hubbard was great a taking a basic truth altering so it sounds different and the calling it his own. In the beginning he did give credit to those he plagiarized and then he bought into his myth and was stuck forever in his lies. No going back.
For all the people who have been severely damaged, some permanently, by this “religion” I must say I am grateful that the numbers of people they claim to have in their walls is nowhere near the truth.
Charlie Nairn is a wonderful source of Lroonism. He caught Lroon in a pensive mood and had he a hidden tape recorder with him, could have slapped the Clampire in its early mouth. Give Charlie his props, he and the Grenada group did what they could to publicize the modus operandi of the Clam Scam.
Like Mark and many others have said, it is always worse than you think.
I’ve always found that account to be so haunting. Like he had walked into another reality, not knowing how long it would last. He was with the “real” Hubbard for that fleeting time; a man who was desperately insecure, titanically needy, and utterly unable to meet others on a shared emotional plane. But how? Did he catch him on the right drugs? In some psychotic break that produced a moment of clarity and honesty? We’ll never know, but we have Nairn’s amazing account of the pre dawn encounter where for a brief time, the con man allowed himself to be genuine with another person. I doubt it ever happened again.
Well, for any folks who STILL want to defend Hubbard...kindly wake the fuck up.
Contrast the content of Nairn's frank conversation with "The Commode Door" with Sunny's
moving testimony about her childhood trauma in El Con Blowhard's "religion". The guy was
an evil coward and a fetid piece of shit.
Oh yeah, and let's not forget his homunculus, the lift-wearing, Macallan-pickled tyrant David Miscavige,
who has extended the Flatulant Fabulist's legacy of abuse, criminality, and all-purpose evil...
SCIENTOLOGY: ALWAYS WORSE THAN YOU THINK!
Nairn’s story corroborates my impressions of Hubbard when I worked with him on the ship in 1974. I was a true believer then but at the same time i was not afraid to speak my mind regarding a song he wanted produced. Got me in big trouble but he didn’t bust me. There was a certain respect for me he did not have for the rest of the crew. I lasted for 6 month on the ship.
The biggest impression I took away was a man starved for admiration and attention. That addiction drove him to enslave the minds of many good intentioned individuals who wanted to help people. Even after leaving the sea Org it took me 40 years to leave Scientology. Hubbard’s conversation with Nairn is one of the few times L. Ron spoke the the truth.
One of the very few times.
".... how could Hubbard have ever got away from the monster he created?...." - from the article.
This conversation, and then the Sarge conversation, two times Hubbard was frank about the "monster" he'd created.
Hubbard also comes across really as "mental" too, mixed in. His ridiculous "The only mad man is the one who doesn't admit he's a madman...." (after just answering yes, he does think he's a mad man, to Nairn's question that does end the 1968 interview, which really IS why "Madman or Messiah" title is core truth there!). Nairn did get that at least!
Hubbard was great a taking a basic truth altering so it sounds different and the calling it his own. In the beginning he did give credit to those he plagiarized and then he bought into his myth and was stuck forever in his lies. No going back.
For all the people who have been severely damaged, some permanently, by this “religion” I must say I am grateful that the numbers of people they claim to have in their walls is nowhere near the truth.
Charlie Nairn is a wonderful source of Lroonism. He caught Lroon in a pensive mood and had he a hidden tape recorder with him, could have slapped the Clampire in its early mouth. Give Charlie his props, he and the Grenada group did what they could to publicize the modus operandi of the Clam Scam.
Like Mark and many others have said, it is always worse than you think.
Great interview on the ship and good videos. Really show what a slick conman Hubbard was. Wish I'd watched them before I got involved.
He was such a loser.
"Let's get my relationship to this completely straight...and so on" he just could not help himself