Our old friend, Austrian journalist Peter Reichelt, has a real treat for us today, and we want to thank him for doing the work not only to bring us a very rare David Miscavige interview that has never appeared in English before, but also to get the story behind the story.
He contradicts himself several times: Is Scientology “in a development phase”, or newly getting established”, “well-established”, or “has 8-10 million followers” with “half a million introduced to it each year”? My vote is for “none of the above”. Or is it protecting unalterable scriptures or in that “developing phase” of changing them to help the mentally ill? “A world without mental illness…” Not on this watch, looks like.
"We reach out to people who are doing well..." Because poor people can't pay us what we want.
Excellent digging by everyone involved. Even with questions being pre-approved, Miscavige still got mad because no one kissed his behind. I love the comment that the $cieno 'facilitators' behaved like Tupper Ware salesmen. Lotter understood the situation perfectly.
The photos were interesting, back before he looked like an anorexic bobblehead. It would be interesting to see him on the stand in a court of law. The lie fest appeared to start well but rapidly deteriorated. Even though the interviewer didn’t once insert an iota of emotion in, it was obvious that Miscavige was angry by the end. I don’t think he’s able to pretend to be friendly very long. Even on his home turf, he was bested. I would be shocked if any court case he has finally entered an appearance in ever proceeds to the point where his attorneys allow him on the witness stand. If he appears against their advice, I’d break my personal LA ban to be in the courtroom to watch that sh@#show.
The IRS has dealt with many who had tax issues because of mental health issues preventing them from properly handling their taxes due to trauma and injustices caused by Scientology’s manipulation and brainwashing. I have personal experience with that. I filed for relief and asked the IRS to wave all interest on back taxes. They granted a waver after I presented proof I had been damaged by Scientology’s doctrines and injustice. The IRS knows it’s toxic.
Here’s a quote from Miscavige, a travesty that Scientology got tax exempt status:
MISCAVIGE- “We are recognized in the USA as a tax-exempt religious community, i.e. a non-profit organization. No individual benefits from the donations we receive. And believe me, the American tax authorities have searched us from top to bottom, and that’s after we’ve been at war with them for forty years. It was the most extensive audit of an organization in the history of this agency. If they certify our non-profit status, who can doubt that?
INTERVIEWER-:”But Scientology undoubtedly costs people a lot of money, doesn’t it?”
MISCAVIGE- “The people who say that are not Scientologists, but our enemies. The most important point is and remains that no one is personally enriched.”
What a crock. Thanks Tony for exposing more Scientology propaganda spewed by the little sociopath.
So, defendant David “he is NOT insane!” Miscavige went along with the idea of the interview, he had previous knowledge of the questions, and he still blew up, both at the ODA underling and at the journalist?
Good. No-one can help a dork like that, and whatever he is the head of will fail.
The part after the article, between Peter and Wolf is so realistic about what a mistake this was on Miscavige's part to even do this interview.
One of Miscavige's worst interviews for sure.
If the four Miscavige interviews were listed in a scale, then:
a) Ted Koppel interview of Miscavige is always tops, worst revealing how shoddy Scientology and Miscavige are.
b) This Wolf Lotter interview of Miscavige is next worst Miscavige interview, with some horribly juvenile Miscavige gaffes, and like Tony says in the YouTube talk of this article, it'd be so incredible to get a copy of that Miscavige nasty letter to Wolf complaining to Wolf how bad Wolf was, that letter by Miscavige mirrors the Miscavige gaffes.
[In training OSA PR staff, they study these Miscavige interviews, and try to mirror the Miscavige good points. What is so ludicrous, is this was such a horribly bad interview by Miscavige, it's such a problem to find anything good, and what would have to be twisted and mislabelled as "good" is really really bad. So goes continuing Scientology PR work, it's boldly bad when they think it's good. But nevertheless any Miscavige public PR interviewing I think gets reviewed, I wonder if this can be corroborated, since it means Scientology at OSA might have copies of the filming done of this interview, and thus had the actual footage. Wolf mentions in the aftertalk with Peter, that two OSA filmers were filming it. ]
c) The St. Pete Time interview with Miscavige would be third worst
d) I don't know what the last Miscavige interview was, I guess it's the TV show by NBC that Tony talks about which is behind a paywall to view it, and I don't think it's leaked.
Anyways, all said, this absolutely is the second worst gaffe Miscavige interview!
Excellent for getting this out for posterity.
And the afterpart of the article between Peter and Wolf discussing the making of the interview, is so realistic how stupid it was of Miscavige to do the interview, and then the two Austrian OSA staffers get blamed, with Klaus Buchele going to the RPF for it, LOL.
[When I was in, we Americans pronounced "Buchele" boo kell ee. Almost all HGB staff did NOT try to correctly give the name Buchele the correct German pronounciation, which I can also do, I speak German, but even so, I would refer to Klaus's last name as "boo kell ee" (Buchele). ]
Chuck Beatty
I called thousands of people's names for roll calls during my years as Course Supervisor, and the difficult foreignors would give me the American version of their names which were "settled" by their colleagues, and for Klaus and Edith Buchele, their last name became "boo kell ee." This is true, LOL.
He contradicts himself several times: Is Scientology “in a development phase”, or newly getting established”, “well-established”, or “has 8-10 million followers” with “half a million introduced to it each year”? My vote is for “none of the above”. Or is it protecting unalterable scriptures or in that “developing phase” of changing them to help the mentally ill? “A world without mental illness…” Not on this watch, looks like.
I noticed he said the 'new' people "try" for the first time each year. Not join, but try. :)
"We reach out to people who are doing well..." Because poor people can't pay us what we want.
Excellent digging by everyone involved. Even with questions being pre-approved, Miscavige still got mad because no one kissed his behind. I love the comment that the $cieno 'facilitators' behaved like Tupper Ware salesmen. Lotter understood the situation perfectly.
The photos were interesting, back before he looked like an anorexic bobblehead. It would be interesting to see him on the stand in a court of law. The lie fest appeared to start well but rapidly deteriorated. Even though the interviewer didn’t once insert an iota of emotion in, it was obvious that Miscavige was angry by the end. I don’t think he’s able to pretend to be friendly very long. Even on his home turf, he was bested. I would be shocked if any court case he has finally entered an appearance in ever proceeds to the point where his attorneys allow him on the witness stand. If he appears against their advice, I’d break my personal LA ban to be in the courtroom to watch that sh@#show.
"No individual benefits from the donations we receive."
*looks at Dave's shoes* Uh-huh.
The IRS has dealt with many who had tax issues because of mental health issues preventing them from properly handling their taxes due to trauma and injustices caused by Scientology’s manipulation and brainwashing. I have personal experience with that. I filed for relief and asked the IRS to wave all interest on back taxes. They granted a waver after I presented proof I had been damaged by Scientology’s doctrines and injustice. The IRS knows it’s toxic.
Here’s a quote from Miscavige, a travesty that Scientology got tax exempt status:
MISCAVIGE- “We are recognized in the USA as a tax-exempt religious community, i.e. a non-profit organization. No individual benefits from the donations we receive. And believe me, the American tax authorities have searched us from top to bottom, and that’s after we’ve been at war with them for forty years. It was the most extensive audit of an organization in the history of this agency. If they certify our non-profit status, who can doubt that?
INTERVIEWER-:”But Scientology undoubtedly costs people a lot of money, doesn’t it?”
MISCAVIGE- “The people who say that are not Scientologists, but our enemies. The most important point is and remains that no one is personally enriched.”
What a crock. Thanks Tony for exposing more Scientology propaganda spewed by the little sociopath.
I wonder if Wolf Lotter would ever consider publishing the letter he received from Miscavaige? That would be super interesting to read.
Thanks to Peter Reichelt, what a treat this is!
Now I am wondering what Miscavige frothed in the nastygram Mr. Lotter received from him.
So, defendant David “he is NOT insane!” Miscavige went along with the idea of the interview, he had previous knowledge of the questions, and he still blew up, both at the ODA underling and at the journalist?
Good. No-one can help a dork like that, and whatever he is the head of will fail.
There's a lot of great Miscavige gaffe answers.
The part after the article, between Peter and Wolf is so realistic about what a mistake this was on Miscavige's part to even do this interview.
One of Miscavige's worst interviews for sure.
If the four Miscavige interviews were listed in a scale, then:
a) Ted Koppel interview of Miscavige is always tops, worst revealing how shoddy Scientology and Miscavige are.
b) This Wolf Lotter interview of Miscavige is next worst Miscavige interview, with some horribly juvenile Miscavige gaffes, and like Tony says in the YouTube talk of this article, it'd be so incredible to get a copy of that Miscavige nasty letter to Wolf complaining to Wolf how bad Wolf was, that letter by Miscavige mirrors the Miscavige gaffes.
[In training OSA PR staff, they study these Miscavige interviews, and try to mirror the Miscavige good points. What is so ludicrous, is this was such a horribly bad interview by Miscavige, it's such a problem to find anything good, and what would have to be twisted and mislabelled as "good" is really really bad. So goes continuing Scientology PR work, it's boldly bad when they think it's good. But nevertheless any Miscavige public PR interviewing I think gets reviewed, I wonder if this can be corroborated, since it means Scientology at OSA might have copies of the filming done of this interview, and thus had the actual footage. Wolf mentions in the aftertalk with Peter, that two OSA filmers were filming it. ]
c) The St. Pete Time interview with Miscavige would be third worst
d) I don't know what the last Miscavige interview was, I guess it's the TV show by NBC that Tony talks about which is behind a paywall to view it, and I don't think it's leaked.
Anyways, all said, this absolutely is the second worst gaffe Miscavige interview!
Excellent for getting this out for posterity.
And the afterpart of the article between Peter and Wolf discussing the making of the interview, is so realistic how stupid it was of Miscavige to do the interview, and then the two Austrian OSA staffers get blamed, with Klaus Buchele going to the RPF for it, LOL.
[When I was in, we Americans pronounced "Buchele" boo kell ee. Almost all HGB staff did NOT try to correctly give the name Buchele the correct German pronounciation, which I can also do, I speak German, but even so, I would refer to Klaus's last name as "boo kell ee" (Buchele). ]
Chuck Beatty
I called thousands of people's names for roll calls during my years as Course Supervisor, and the difficult foreignors would give me the American version of their names which were "settled" by their colleagues, and for Klaus and Edith Buchele, their last name became "boo kell ee." This is true, LOL.