Scientology is not going to give her a list of “reasonable” names to select from? That would be the most logical, yet judge seems too weak to rule that. Valerie must gamble & ask someone from the “hundreds” that she knows, hoping the person she selects is “in good standing.” 🙄
To arbitrate with an arbitrator. Is like a rape of a victim having to see her assaulter. It makes no sense. Religious arbitration should be abolished. Why does the victim get treated like shit. Why does an accused rapist have more rights than victims.
Ugh don’t like this judge. She doesn’t understand that Valerie has no clue who is in good standing by now. They say she knows hundreds of scientologists. Hmmmm are any of them UTR? Perhaps she can name one of them.
I'm wondering why there isn't some mention to the judge in here by her attorney that no matter who is in "good standing" in Scientology will automatically be somebody not allowed to talk to her anyway, being that she's SP. Isn't that right? Shouldn't that have been the explanation as to why they need a list from Scientology? What a fucking joke.
Scientology has made it very clear in this and other lawsuits that it doesn't matter that their arbitration is impossible for the plaintiff/complainant to win, that "it doesn't matter if David Miscavige has a black heart", and it doesn't matter that Scientologists in good standing will never be allowed to find in the plaintiff's favour - judges simply cannot interfere in religious arbitration.
In effect, they make no argument that the process is fair, they simply tell the judge he or she has no legal right to interfere, and thus far the judges have accepted their argument, even when it's been clear they find the situation farcical.
This travesty of justice begs the question: " what the fuck????"
The elephant in the room: Valerie being obligated to participate in an arbitration that applies to "members of the religion". Don't even get me started on the absurdity of a criminally negligent and fraudulent "religion" having a so-called arbitration process in the first place...
This whole thing just stinks. There is NO SUCH THING as "arbitration", per its legal definition, in scientology. There never was and there never will be.
Scientology is not going to give her a list of “reasonable” names to select from? That would be the most logical, yet judge seems too weak to rule that. Valerie must gamble & ask someone from the “hundreds” that she knows, hoping the person she selects is “in good standing.” 🙄
Aren’t Scientologists in good standing barred from communicating with her at all?
Correct. It's farcical.
To arbitrate with an arbitrator. Is like a rape of a victim having to see her assaulter. It makes no sense. Religious arbitration should be abolished. Why does the victim get treated like shit. Why does an accused rapist have more rights than victims.
I frequently find myself in full agreement with you.
Like I said, letting this go to the church of scientology's arbitration is as good as tossing the lawsuit. This is far from "Justice."
Ugh don’t like this judge. She doesn’t understand that Valerie has no clue who is in good standing by now. They say she knows hundreds of scientologists. Hmmmm are any of them UTR? Perhaps she can name one of them.
I'm wondering why there isn't some mention to the judge in here by her attorney that no matter who is in "good standing" in Scientology will automatically be somebody not allowed to talk to her anyway, being that she's SP. Isn't that right? Shouldn't that have been the explanation as to why they need a list from Scientology? What a fucking joke.
Scientology has made it very clear in this and other lawsuits that it doesn't matter that their arbitration is impossible for the plaintiff/complainant to win, that "it doesn't matter if David Miscavige has a black heart", and it doesn't matter that Scientologists in good standing will never be allowed to find in the plaintiff's favour - judges simply cannot interfere in religious arbitration.
In effect, they make no argument that the process is fair, they simply tell the judge he or she has no legal right to interfere, and thus far the judges have accepted their argument, even when it's been clear they find the situation farcical.
It's the most infuriating thing!
This travesty of justice begs the question: " what the fuck????"
The elephant in the room: Valerie being obligated to participate in an arbitration that applies to "members of the religion". Don't even get me started on the absurdity of a criminally negligent and fraudulent "religion" having a so-called arbitration process in the first place...
This whole thing just stinks. There is NO SUCH THING as "arbitration", per its legal definition, in scientology. There never was and there never will be.
The "most ethical group" on the planet, eh?