I didn’t know Kirstie all that well, I was just wanting to point out the lack of respect Scientology has for its own members, including public Scientologists who would want to show their respects.
It seems the CC has lost so much of its cachet, though. I mean, Scientology as a whole, but within the church ... And Kirstie Alley sold her California house and moved full time to Florida, as did her kids. My understanding is that Miscavige is also here full time. So maybe it's not a snub. I understand Scientology's numbers are decreasing, but Clearwater has no shortage of public Scientologists. Her life was Clearwater these past.few years.
Did she have a memorial where any Scientologist could come pay their respects? The memorial at Flag, per my info, was private. Where is the acknowledgement for all she has done? The celebration of her life? I had friends, still current Scientologists in good standing, trying to pay their respects and were UNABLE to get any information about a memorial that they could attend. My point is Scientology total disrespect to her, after all she has done.
I don't know. But I imagine that she had a lot to do with planning her end, since she knew. And her children will do whatever she wanted. It is not uncommon, Scientologist or not, to have a private memorial service -- not open to everyone. It is sad for folks who want to pay their respects but everyone is different. Anyway, just my two cents' worth.
For years while I was a memuber, I heard of people d e a d, often way too young, who were part of Scientology. Only the "opinion leaders" (very well known peeps) had public funerals or even mentions of their passing . I guess even that has changed now.
Thanks Sunny & Tony.
Fly high Kristie...you are finally truly free. 🌹🌠☯️
Good article, Sunny. I remember when a good friend an SO member died (of cancer) I went to her service at CC Int. Her kids an friends were there but not one SO member was there. I aske why are the SO members she worked with not here? I thought it was heartless that they would not come to say goodbye. I was told, well they have their stats to get up by Thurs before 2:00 etc. I thought that was heartless.
One other reason why the church may be trying to keep Kirstie's death under wraps is that she was OT VIII and it is out PR for OT's to die. When hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, an OT VIII friend I had who lived there was stranded an needed help. I got word out on a Scn internet site to send donations to help him an I got attacked b other Scns for it. Seems we aren't supposed to portray an OT VIII as needing help or as down and out. He turned me into the Ship for my "overt" and even the Ship MAA called me. It was OUT PR for an OT VIII to nee help and they said we don't publicize it. The idea being that OT VIII's are Gods who can glow things right.
Cece, thank you for your kind words. It's true what you say. An dI know another OT VIII public who when he gets a cold or flu, will stay home with various excuses because he thinks it is out PR to be seen having a cold if you're an OT VIII. Think of the pressure that puts on the OT VIII's to carry on and perpetuate the lie. That is major stress to do that.
Everyone but Niblet is disposable in the $cienoverse. I surprised that no actual 'funeral service' is open to the Clams. I guess Kristie didn't leave enough money to the ClamsScam. I hope her children can escape now.
Miscabige is a pos! yep, I had to spell it with scab in his name. I despise what scientology did to that beautiful and talented woman. To not have the very best memorial for the most outspoken scientologist there was, is just unforgivable. Sure I’m angry about the way she treated Leah and others who defected from the cult. The take away here is the way David Miscavige and COS treat its billion year contracted Sea Org members and its parishioners. I wonder what kind of donor Kristie was? As I digress, does anyone know if her children are active in COS?
SCN's and SO members do not like death. It is proof that we are not immortal, we are subject to the cycle of birth and death as everyone else, wogs' etc. I recall being on staff and frequently when someone died, especially a staff member the church would try to hide the fact. You certainly were not encouraged to talk about the person's passing except in session if you HAD to have one. Apparently even Yvonne Jentzsch's illness and death were covered up and Yvonne basically formed CC LA (INT) and put it on the map. She was CC's beloved leader. This is just one of the things you learn as a staff member, you don't spread entheta (bad news) and you don't talk about people dying.
I didn’t know Kirstie all that well, I was just wanting to point out the lack of respect Scientology has for its own members, including public Scientologists who would want to show their respects.
It seems the CC has lost so much of its cachet, though. I mean, Scientology as a whole, but within the church ... And Kirstie Alley sold her California house and moved full time to Florida, as did her kids. My understanding is that Miscavige is also here full time. So maybe it's not a snub. I understand Scientology's numbers are decreasing, but Clearwater has no shortage of public Scientologists. Her life was Clearwater these past.few years.
Did she have a memorial where any Scientologist could come pay their respects? The memorial at Flag, per my info, was private. Where is the acknowledgement for all she has done? The celebration of her life? I had friends, still current Scientologists in good standing, trying to pay their respects and were UNABLE to get any information about a memorial that they could attend. My point is Scientology total disrespect to her, after all she has done.
I don't know. But I imagine that she had a lot to do with planning her end, since she knew. And her children will do whatever she wanted. It is not uncommon, Scientologist or not, to have a private memorial service -- not open to everyone. It is sad for folks who want to pay their respects but everyone is different. Anyway, just my two cents' worth.
Yes, that is a good point. Thank you!
For years while I was a memuber, I heard of people d e a d, often way too young, who were part of Scientology. Only the "opinion leaders" (very well known peeps) had public funerals or even mentions of their passing . I guess even that has changed now.
Thanks Sunny & Tony.
Fly high Kristie...you are finally truly free. 🌹🌠☯️
Kirstie
You did well Sunny 🌞
I picked up a People mag today for week December 19th. A Farewell Toast to Cheers Star Kirstie Alley.
I appreciate your story. I was at AOLA. Maybe she read Christmas stories to my kids? They were at the nearby CCI annex Child Care Org through the 80s.
Well she wasn't selfish that is for sure. My partner knows her through her love of animals. May she be in peace. ❤️
You did well Sunny 🌞
I picked up a People mag today for week December 19th. A Farewell Toast to Cheers Star Kirstie Alley.
I appreciate your story. I was at AOLA. Maybe she read Christmas stories to my kids? They were at the nearby CCI annex Child Care Org through the 80s.
Well she wasn't selfish that is for sure. My partner knows her through her love of animals. May she be in peace. ❤️
Good article, Sunny. I remember when a good friend an SO member died (of cancer) I went to her service at CC Int. Her kids an friends were there but not one SO member was there. I aske why are the SO members she worked with not here? I thought it was heartless that they would not come to say goodbye. I was told, well they have their stats to get up by Thurs before 2:00 etc. I thought that was heartless.
One other reason why the church may be trying to keep Kirstie's death under wraps is that she was OT VIII and it is out PR for OT's to die. When hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, an OT VIII friend I had who lived there was stranded an needed help. I got word out on a Scn internet site to send donations to help him an I got attacked b other Scns for it. Seems we aren't supposed to portray an OT VIII as needing help or as down and out. He turned me into the Ship for my "overt" and even the Ship MAA called me. It was OUT PR for an OT VIII to nee help and they said we don't publicize it. The idea being that OT VIII's are Gods who can glow things right.
Cindy, so very kind and thoughtful of you ❤️
Such a very wrong 'correction' to be made when you should have been commended.
Another example of scientology driving away the good people.
It's terribly sad they took your family because they couldn't stand your love. Xo
Cece, thank you for your kind words. It's true what you say. An dI know another OT VIII public who when he gets a cold or flu, will stay home with various excuses because he thinks it is out PR to be seen having a cold if you're an OT VIII. Think of the pressure that puts on the OT VIII's to carry on and perpetuate the lie. That is major stress to do that.
Everyone but Niblet is disposable in the $cienoverse. I surprised that no actual 'funeral service' is open to the Clams. I guess Kristie didn't leave enough money to the ClamsScam. I hope her children can escape now.
Miscabige is a pos! yep, I had to spell it with scab in his name. I despise what scientology did to that beautiful and talented woman. To not have the very best memorial for the most outspoken scientologist there was, is just unforgivable. Sure I’m angry about the way she treated Leah and others who defected from the cult. The take away here is the way David Miscavige and COS treat its billion year contracted Sea Org members and its parishioners. I wonder what kind of donor Kristie was? As I digress, does anyone know if her children are active in COS?
That’s a lovely tribute to Kirstie.
Great post! Very true!!
SCN's and SO members do not like death. It is proof that we are not immortal, we are subject to the cycle of birth and death as everyone else, wogs' etc. I recall being on staff and frequently when someone died, especially a staff member the church would try to hide the fact. You certainly were not encouraged to talk about the person's passing except in session if you HAD to have one. Apparently even Yvonne Jentzsch's illness and death were covered up and Yvonne basically formed CC LA (INT) and put it on the map. She was CC's beloved leader. This is just one of the things you learn as a staff member, you don't spread entheta (bad news) and you don't talk about people dying.