Over my years in Scientology I used several Scientology doctors in LA.(I.e. Megan Shiels) I also used nutritionalist. In retrospect all their diagnosis and treatments were colored by Hubbards policy’s on physical and mental health. Hubbard fancied himself an expert on everything. So it’s no wonder that Dr. Minkoff even though certified as a doctor, is a quack. He idolizes L. Ron Quackurd And I know that it’s the Scientology OT levels that created the stress and insanity leading to her suicide. Been there, done that. I spent 3 years in a suicidal state every waking hour. I my case the cult pretty much left me alone and I finally woke up after reading Tony’s articles in the Village Voice.
I hope Shaw Health Center is no more. Criminal Malpractice Center is a better suited name. Tens of thousands were harmed by these quacks. Sorry you were one of them. I have a wheelchair years later from their "treatments" which were reminiscent of an Oprah crazed"You get a Cal Mag!, You get a Cal Mag!, You get...!" They signed off on most Purif's too. No one was ever "okay" to be on that rat lab experiment, the Purif, especially Sea Org staff. All of Hubbard's quackery produced stress. Scientologists are stressed every minute of every day. That kind of stress is killer.
Justice delayed is justice denied. Whitney Mill's died because justice was denied Lisa Mcpherson. Who knows how many before, during and future. But criminals like #Minkoff knows. May all of his victims and victims' families stand up and speak out this time.
I feel SO greatful you're here with us Geoff. I love your comments and your music, which I will listen to your latest production when the link is shared. Much love to you.
Minkoff needs to be in another business. His 'holistic' crap is just crap and he didn't treat Mills ovarian cyst. Those things can be very painful. Minky should have sent Whitney to a psychiatrist to triage for mental health problems. But in $cienoworld, that is just not possible. I am starting to think that Chiropractors should not have patients with symptoms like Whitneys.
I guess the oiliness table and wall of smells don't help much with medical conditions. Who would have thought that? Yoda is beyond disgusted.
"contagion of aberation" in reverse. The Hubbard out of step with society thinking influences how doctors who are steadfast Scientology movement partners, doing all the "Purif" doctor "checks" for example, possibly lucrative for the doctors who do them like clockwork for Scientology "service organizations" or whichever officially endorse and authorized groups charge persons to do the Hubbard "Purification Rundown."
Those "Scientology" health checkup doctors, will be always connected to the various Scientology organizations, doctors doing doctoring health stuff for all levels of Scientology participation.
There's a whole history of this, and a "top" Scientology assisting doctor in this way is David Minkoff.
This whole angle of Scientologists, Hubbard, being game for exercise and vitamins, sounds on some levels sensible, but the "Purification Rundown" is completely overboard and not sensible, even hugely damaging.
There ought to be an across the boards medical societies investigation and cautions, that get repeated, for how unsensible the vitamins overdosing that goes on during the Hubbard "Purification Rundown" always leads towards.
Then relied upon, and "elite" Scientology faithful doctors, Minkoff is in a top level all his own.
Nothing good comes of L. Ron Hubbard's extremist rules and regulations tied into the quackery "services" that Scientology makes the followers do "standardly."
"Standard" by Hubbard, is quackery by normal standards.
Hubbard and all Scientologists omit comparison of their practices to the world's practices, but Scientology's stepladder of "services" simply put, are quackery.
Purification Rundown
Pastlives trauma incidents sought out using the Hubbard pseudo-therapy talk "processes" commands
Exorcism of Xenu's earth dumped "body-thetans" (messed up invisible souls without bodies that infest our human bodies today)
Finally found "Deadbeat Dad". Not Eminem's! Your lyrics nailed it. Voice like velvet - makes it easy and inviting to listen to your message. I've seen some but you've seen all of the demise of creativity in so many slowly sucked out. So glad you are one of the many who got out and able to rehabilitate that special spark.
Reading these amendments reminds me once again that the higher a person gets on the bridge, the more it messes with their sanity. Telling a person that they have a bunch of body thetans attached to them and making them search for them is a recipe for insanity.
Claire and Hana discuss this in a BFG podcast and Claire says she believes the fact that she was higher on the OT levels than Marc was the reason it took her longer to break free. The OT levels are not something to point and laugh at, they are a recipe for mental illness. Look at people who are high up on the OT levels who haven’t made the break: Kirstie Alley became more and more unhinged, John Allender and the squirrel busters, Chick Corea, Nancy Cartwright, Jenna Elfman, etc. They become just … different if not totally unhinged the higher up they get.
Whitney Mills is not the only OT who has died by suicide either. Nancy Cartwright had a boyfriend who did.
I’m glad I got the help I needed, I could have been killed or, on one of my dark days, taken my own life. I, by then, was with people who cared about mental health and got me the help I needed.
This lawsuits needs to go viral. This is what Scientology does to people.
Now, as for me, yesterday my son turned 44 and it was 8 years since my brother lost his wife. Today we are going to watch Fogerty as a large family group and dance the night away. I will listen to Geoff’s new release on the road there. For now I am packing and showering.
SCIENTOLOGISTS: You can have your beliefs in Scientology and what it promises. But, if you do believe in everything LRH and Scientology promises, do you not find it odd how many high level OTs keep getting and dying from cancer or other issues that they should be immune from?
If these beings have attained cause over MEST then why are they not able to 'cure' themselves or prevent it in the first place?
Do you know any Scientologists - besides well-known cases like Kelly Preston and Kirstie Alley - who were dedicated Scientologists and yet still died due to cancer, heart disease, COVID-19, or other illnesses that should not have been possible if Scientology works as described?
I don't expect you to answer publicly here, for obvious reasons, but I do hope you will think about it.
Dr. Minkoff, et al, deviated greatly from the proper practices, standard of care, and the Hippocratic oath in general.
Setting aside the lack of effort to get Mills actual mental health care, how he handled the whole situation was willful ignorance at best, but showed distinct efforts to protect himself.
Also, unless Whitney Mills signed a power of attorney for healthcare with the mentioned names of Scientology, if what is noted in the lawsuit is true Minkoff and associates explicitly broke the US HIPPA laws. I hope that, regardless of any practice changes Minkoff did to avert punishment before this, those actions would be enough to get the licenses of all persons and entities involved permanently revoked.
I've never been in SCN and never heard of Whitney Mills until reading it on the Underground Bunker, but it breaks my heart all the shit she went through and if not so brainwashed, would have sought help elsewhere. Sometimes, we're just too trusting of those around us.
I don't like pharma drugs, but in emergency cases, they could have helped her until she woke up, if you know what I mean.
The PCR test, according to its inventor, Cary Mullis, repeatedly stated it does not test for anything specific, just lets you know there's something. (BTW, Cary died a month before convid was announced).
As in ALL, of which I have lost count, I intend justice will prevail for ALL Plaintiffs. I still encourage ALL to check out CommonLawCourts.com. There usually is no justice in the US Legal system, but Common Law is Lawful. See Blacks Law books.
Love ya all and looking forward to Geoff's gift for us.
This report on Dr. Minkoff was shocking and yet it wasn't. I have had friends with chronic illnesses who have been subjected to similar treatment by SCN drs. Because SCN believes it knows more than the medical profession, certain SCN drs will convince patients to submit to these non-FDA approved treatments, reasoning that the FDA is behind the times and these weird supplements and procedures will provide a miracle cure. The treatments are very expensive and not covered by insurance. Either the drs believe in this voodoo medicine or they make a big profit off it or both.
Dr Minkoff has to be one of the most hands-off physicians I have seen. If my doctor treated me with this little concern, I would look elsewhere after the first appointment.
I hope Minkoff gets his license revoked permanently this time; and in all 50 states, not just CA.
In looking at Scientology’s tech to test the “perceptics” that go beyond the normal senses, I was surprised that they have not embraced “med beds” that are said to promote quantum healing or change one’s photons. It seems they could be easily programmed to drive away the body thetans. It would be so much quicker than an e-meter.
Over my years in Scientology I used several Scientology doctors in LA.(I.e. Megan Shiels) I also used nutritionalist. In retrospect all their diagnosis and treatments were colored by Hubbards policy’s on physical and mental health. Hubbard fancied himself an expert on everything. So it’s no wonder that Dr. Minkoff even though certified as a doctor, is a quack. He idolizes L. Ron Quackurd And I know that it’s the Scientology OT levels that created the stress and insanity leading to her suicide. Been there, done that. I spent 3 years in a suicidal state every waking hour. I my case the cult pretty much left me alone and I finally woke up after reading Tony’s articles in the Village Voice.
The truth will set you free
and the lies of Scientology
Will destroy your sanity.
I hope Shaw Health Center is no more. Criminal Malpractice Center is a better suited name. Tens of thousands were harmed by these quacks. Sorry you were one of them. I have a wheelchair years later from their "treatments" which were reminiscent of an Oprah crazed"You get a Cal Mag!, You get a Cal Mag!, You get...!" They signed off on most Purif's too. No one was ever "okay" to be on that rat lab experiment, the Purif, especially Sea Org staff. All of Hubbard's quackery produced stress. Scientologists are stressed every minute of every day. That kind of stress is killer.
Justice delayed is justice denied. Whitney Mill's died because justice was denied Lisa Mcpherson. Who knows how many before, during and future. But criminals like #Minkoff knows. May all of his victims and victims' families stand up and speak out this time.
I agree,, 24/7 stress
Scientology caused the mess,
And we still don’t have redress,
We won’t stop till they confess
To their crimes.
I feel SO greatful you're here with us Geoff. I love your comments and your music, which I will listen to your latest production when the link is shared. Much love to you.
VL, thank you. Writing the songs is my way of supporting Tony and the community.
Well, I love your contribution, Geoff.
Minkoff needs to be in another business. His 'holistic' crap is just crap and he didn't treat Mills ovarian cyst. Those things can be very painful. Minky should have sent Whitney to a psychiatrist to triage for mental health problems. But in $cienoworld, that is just not possible. I am starting to think that Chiropractors should not have patients with symptoms like Whitneys.
I guess the oiliness table and wall of smells don't help much with medical conditions. Who would have thought that? Yoda is beyond disgusted.
"contagion of aberation" in reverse. The Hubbard out of step with society thinking influences how doctors who are steadfast Scientology movement partners, doing all the "Purif" doctor "checks" for example, possibly lucrative for the doctors who do them like clockwork for Scientology "service organizations" or whichever officially endorse and authorized groups charge persons to do the Hubbard "Purification Rundown."
Those "Scientology" health checkup doctors, will be always connected to the various Scientology organizations, doctors doing doctoring health stuff for all levels of Scientology participation.
There's a whole history of this, and a "top" Scientology assisting doctor in this way is David Minkoff.
This whole angle of Scientologists, Hubbard, being game for exercise and vitamins, sounds on some levels sensible, but the "Purification Rundown" is completely overboard and not sensible, even hugely damaging.
There ought to be an across the boards medical societies investigation and cautions, that get repeated, for how unsensible the vitamins overdosing that goes on during the Hubbard "Purification Rundown" always leads towards.
Then relied upon, and "elite" Scientology faithful doctors, Minkoff is in a top level all his own.
Nothing good comes of L. Ron Hubbard's extremist rules and regulations tied into the quackery "services" that Scientology makes the followers do "standardly."
"Standard" by Hubbard, is quackery by normal standards.
Hubbard and all Scientologists omit comparison of their practices to the world's practices, but Scientology's stepladder of "services" simply put, are quackery.
Purification Rundown
Pastlives trauma incidents sought out using the Hubbard pseudo-therapy talk "processes" commands
Exorcism of Xenu's earth dumped "body-thetans" (messed up invisible souls without bodies that infest our human bodies today)
Scientology is a stepladder of quackery.
Snakes and Ladders
Subscribers, check out the new song I produced exclusively for Tony. It’s very timely. 🎸🎶
I love it
Thank you. I wanted it to rock. Fun.
Is your documentary out yet?
Finally found "Deadbeat Dad". Not Eminem's! Your lyrics nailed it. Voice like velvet - makes it easy and inviting to listen to your message. I've seen some but you've seen all of the demise of creativity in so many slowly sucked out. So glad you are one of the many who got out and able to rehabilitate that special spark.
THDNE, thank you. It is a joy to be able to express myself through words and music.
Reading these amendments reminds me once again that the higher a person gets on the bridge, the more it messes with their sanity. Telling a person that they have a bunch of body thetans attached to them and making them search for them is a recipe for insanity.
Claire and Hana discuss this in a BFG podcast and Claire says she believes the fact that she was higher on the OT levels than Marc was the reason it took her longer to break free. The OT levels are not something to point and laugh at, they are a recipe for mental illness. Look at people who are high up on the OT levels who haven’t made the break: Kirstie Alley became more and more unhinged, John Allender and the squirrel busters, Chick Corea, Nancy Cartwright, Jenna Elfman, etc. They become just … different if not totally unhinged the higher up they get.
Whitney Mills is not the only OT who has died by suicide either. Nancy Cartwright had a boyfriend who did.
I’m glad I got the help I needed, I could have been killed or, on one of my dark days, taken my own life. I, by then, was with people who cared about mental health and got me the help I needed.
This lawsuits needs to go viral. This is what Scientology does to people.
Now, as for me, yesterday my son turned 44 and it was 8 years since my brother lost his wife. Today we are going to watch Fogerty as a large family group and dance the night away. I will listen to Geoff’s new release on the road there. For now I am packing and showering.
SCIENTOLOGISTS: You can have your beliefs in Scientology and what it promises. But, if you do believe in everything LRH and Scientology promises, do you not find it odd how many high level OTs keep getting and dying from cancer or other issues that they should be immune from?
If these beings have attained cause over MEST then why are they not able to 'cure' themselves or prevent it in the first place?
Do you know any Scientologists - besides well-known cases like Kelly Preston and Kirstie Alley - who were dedicated Scientologists and yet still died due to cancer, heart disease, COVID-19, or other illnesses that should not have been possible if Scientology works as described?
I don't expect you to answer publicly here, for obvious reasons, but I do hope you will think about it.
Dr. Minkoff, et al, deviated greatly from the proper practices, standard of care, and the Hippocratic oath in general.
Setting aside the lack of effort to get Mills actual mental health care, how he handled the whole situation was willful ignorance at best, but showed distinct efforts to protect himself.
Also, unless Whitney Mills signed a power of attorney for healthcare with the mentioned names of Scientology, if what is noted in the lawsuit is true Minkoff and associates explicitly broke the US HIPPA laws. I hope that, regardless of any practice changes Minkoff did to avert punishment before this, those actions would be enough to get the licenses of all persons and entities involved permanently revoked.
I've never been in SCN and never heard of Whitney Mills until reading it on the Underground Bunker, but it breaks my heart all the shit she went through and if not so brainwashed, would have sought help elsewhere. Sometimes, we're just too trusting of those around us.
I don't like pharma drugs, but in emergency cases, they could have helped her until she woke up, if you know what I mean.
The PCR test, according to its inventor, Cary Mullis, repeatedly stated it does not test for anything specific, just lets you know there's something. (BTW, Cary died a month before convid was announced).
As in ALL, of which I have lost count, I intend justice will prevail for ALL Plaintiffs. I still encourage ALL to check out CommonLawCourts.com. There usually is no justice in the US Legal system, but Common Law is Lawful. See Blacks Law books.
Love ya all and looking forward to Geoff's gift for us.
This report on Dr. Minkoff was shocking and yet it wasn't. I have had friends with chronic illnesses who have been subjected to similar treatment by SCN drs. Because SCN believes it knows more than the medical profession, certain SCN drs will convince patients to submit to these non-FDA approved treatments, reasoning that the FDA is behind the times and these weird supplements and procedures will provide a miracle cure. The treatments are very expensive and not covered by insurance. Either the drs believe in this voodoo medicine or they make a big profit off it or both.
Dr Minkoff has to be one of the most hands-off physicians I have seen. If my doctor treated me with this little concern, I would look elsewhere after the first appointment.
I hope Minkoff gets his license revoked permanently this time; and in all 50 states, not just CA.
In looking at Scientology’s tech to test the “perceptics” that go beyond the normal senses, I was surprised that they have not embraced “med beds” that are said to promote quantum healing or change one’s photons. It seems they could be easily programmed to drive away the body thetans. It would be so much quicker than an e-meter.
Not sure they can embrace anything LRH did not “invent “