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Quentin Bobalesque Jr's avatar

These groups seem to be very weak entities to be used as examples to listen to in this case. No actual religion heads speaking up in Masterson’s defense, just a bunch of periphery or ultra low rung groups that don’t and cannot speak for their entire religion. The Queens Federation of Churches (http://queenschurches.org/) for example, their website is the most basic, “older than rocks on the beach, it’s a website because we need a website not because anyone uses it” website. Their copyright notice at the bottom is a year and a half out of date, so they haven’t updated their site in at least that long.

I’m not saying someone has to have a huge presence online to be able to be counted as a religious group or a peripheral one as is likely the case with all these groups, but I’ll bet almost all of these groups have next to zero presence online and barely any footprint in the real world. Them being mentioned by a larger group like Scientology is getting them attention by association which is likely the only reason they put their name to this. No one would be talking about The Queens Federation of Churches this week unless Scientology dragged them along for the ride.

It would be like being a McDonald’s franchise owner who gets into legal trouble, and to try to help, McDonald’s goes around and gets statements from Burger King, Wendy’s and Taco Bell franchise owners, not the CEO’s at the top, not the executives who run things at a nation size level, but just a random franchise owner from a thousand miles away, as if that has any bearing on what has happened at all.

I’ll be amicable, and I’ll be brief, this will almost certainly go the way of the other recent Amicus Brief, it will be accepted to appease the people submitting it, and then it will be ignored.

Edit: I said I’d be brief, oh well. The Puerto Rico blurb says this guy in the photo is doing his Survival Rundown for the second time. Why? If Scientology works, why would you ever have to do any part of it again that you already completed? It should be stored up there in your supercomputer brain, no? The mere fact that they even offer to have people do these things again screams that Scientology doesn’t work. If it did, you’d never have to do anything twice. Once you passed something, you should have it up there with perfect recall, the programming set in place like code on a hard drive. If you install a program on a computer, unless something has gone very wrong with the install or the computer after the fact, you won’t have to reinstall the software. It’s just there.

The question really becomes, if Scientology is so awesome, why are so many people having to redo these courses over and over again? The real answer is that Scientology are doubling dipping to get at least some form of revenue coming in at these Orgs. No doubt they’re all questioning each other relentlessly trying to find which course or courses someone didn’t feel 100% confident in when they did it, and as soon as they find out someone had even a 1% crack in that confidence in it, they’ll start haranguing that person to do the course again. All side-eyeing each other to watch out for moments and opportunities for when they can get someone to dump more of their money into the failing Org.

They’re getting so desperate that they taking actions that do nothing but overtly SCREAM OUT LOUD that they’re in dire straits when it comes to membership. We’ve seen more news about existing people retaking courses than we have new people joining.

Ok I’m done waffling, time to go kick Monday in the balls.

Chuck Beatty's avatar

Scientology's reputation is only official Scientology's fault.

a-0) Remove Miscavige. Retire him quietly.

a) reform/cease disconnection for real (implement only "handle" on PTS handlings, except in RARE cases)

b) amnesty all past SP declares

c) lower prices

d) pay staffs greater allowances

e) disband OSA, save all that money wasted on lawyers and PIs

f) downsize staff (and pay helping staff move back to regular life)

g) pay off humanely (have outsider genuine religion allies be the ones, and pay outsiders, to be on committees and decide) all persons Scientology's messed up their lives

h) use way to happiness "virtues" from Precept 20 to reform ALL of Hubbard's backfiring regulations top to bottom, which just means do basically like splinter Scientology, who just drop all the "High Crimes" "SP" regulations to blame each other and blame the public.

Until Scientology does the major points above, then Scientology deserves it's negative reputation.

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