On Thursday, we asked Claire Headley and Mike Rinder about Scientology’s public response to the Whitney Mills wrongful death lawsuit, where the church angrily denied the lawsuit’s allegation that the 40-year-old woman had been told by other Scientologists to “drop the body” as a response to her severe mental health problems, and that she had been told there was a specific Scientology “assist” to help her do this.
I was at the Palladium event. It was a shock to us all. The whole point of the event was to cover the fact that Hubbard was a sick, mentally disabled old man who died alone and depressed. So all the BS explanations about Hubbard with full and complete awareness deciding to leave his body so he could do further research on the unlimited power and abilities of thetans(spiritual beings) were fabricated. Complete lies.
What was not a lie was the acceptance of all Scientologists that this was normal.
In the lawsuit the facts are there that this is, still normal. Interesting that Scientology is stating they have no say in the medical treatment of their parishioners. What about this quote from the lecture excerpt Tony posted?
“ And, you will find that I have just given a demonstration here to the Flag medical officers which is HCOB 7 April 1972 Touch Assist, ”.
I have first hand knowledge of just how ineffectual Scientology staff are in treating mental illness. They know next to nothing. I spent three years in a state of acute suicidal depression. I had no help from the organization other than assigning several volunteer ministers to check in on me every day and make sure I had food and getting me to take a walk. They were applying PAB 6 tech. Thats all they have. I could have easily gone the way of Whitney Mills.
And how did I get in such a horrible state? Gaslighting from manipulative criminal Scientologists and brainless staff following the few policies written by L. Ron Hubbard. I am grateful for Tony and Mike who exposed me to truth about Scientology and Dianetics and I was able to recover. It’s important to keep exposing the abuses and insane practices of the cherch. We can save lives.
Reading the truth healed you. It got your mind back in a condition to start healing. Scientology needs to be alerted to the fact that if their parishioners express suicidal ideation, they should be directed immediately to Tony and Mike for a cure. If only that was possible.
What you say about Pat Broeker's speech is true, and I was at that event at the Palladium. But it is never referenced at all. If you were not a Scientologist in 1986 you would not know about it.
At various times Dave has made speeches that cover Scientology history. The Palladium event is never mentioned. I don't even remember hearing the phrase "causitively dropped his body" or similar, maybe something like "having completed his research".
Dave is probably very aware that the Pat Broeker speech makes his "religion" a death cult and has distanced himself from it completely. Hard to get IRS recognition for a death cult, even in the US of A.
Of course, I speak as someone who never even went Clear, never heard about the upper levels until after I was out. So it is very likely I just never heard about it because it was confidential.
"And he talked and talked to her: ”Think of your husband, think of your children, think of…” and so on and he talked and talked to her. He couldn’t get her to come back and pick up the body at all. Until all of a sudden he happened to think, “Think of your poor auditor,” and she came back and picked up the body."
That's a very un-Scientologist way of thinking, no? You're supposed to live many lifetimes. These are just your children or family members in this lifetime. I thought you weren't supposed to care about them.
Also, 'think of your poor Auditor'? Were they going to get in trouble if they couldn't get them to pick up the body?
Obfuscation, head fakes, and straight out lies are the ways the Clampire rolls. Watch for the CO$ start calling their 'drop the body' routine something like Catholic Last Rites or something similar. As for the history of 'drop the body', too many people know about it to keep it hidden. It will come out in court and I hope that the Mills family gets all of the nefarious actions on record.
The CO$ inability to use proper medical procedures to treat mental illness is just another way they are an insular, high control 'religion'. They need to be subject to laws that mandate treatment like those laws that require doctors to treat any patient, regardless of ability to pay. I would like to add the laws that regard several Christian groups that practice snake handling, but that only applies to people over the age of 18. The Jehovah's Witnesses have similar problems with blood transfusion, but I think that only applies to children too.
The OT-8 ex husband is really going to Drop His Body soon. I have written about this recently. But, he still thinks he can go one and on because he is OT-8. His cancer is devouring him. He attended that Palladium Event. Where was I? Home & pregnant with child # 4...The wasband (ex husband,) never cared about me. Also, I feel that I remembered that poor John Travolta tried to bring his son back using the "technique from Hubbard."
I was at the Palladium event. It was a shock to us all. The whole point of the event was to cover the fact that Hubbard was a sick, mentally disabled old man who died alone and depressed. So all the BS explanations about Hubbard with full and complete awareness deciding to leave his body so he could do further research on the unlimited power and abilities of thetans(spiritual beings) were fabricated. Complete lies.
What was not a lie was the acceptance of all Scientologists that this was normal.
In the lawsuit the facts are there that this is, still normal. Interesting that Scientology is stating they have no say in the medical treatment of their parishioners. What about this quote from the lecture excerpt Tony posted?
“ And, you will find that I have just given a demonstration here to the Flag medical officers which is HCOB 7 April 1972 Touch Assist, ”.
I have first hand knowledge of just how ineffectual Scientology staff are in treating mental illness. They know next to nothing. I spent three years in a state of acute suicidal depression. I had no help from the organization other than assigning several volunteer ministers to check in on me every day and make sure I had food and getting me to take a walk. They were applying PAB 6 tech. Thats all they have. I could have easily gone the way of Whitney Mills.
And how did I get in such a horrible state? Gaslighting from manipulative criminal Scientologists and brainless staff following the few policies written by L. Ron Hubbard. I am grateful for Tony and Mike who exposed me to truth about Scientology and Dianetics and I was able to recover. It’s important to keep exposing the abuses and insane practices of the cherch. We can save lives.
Reading the truth healed you. It got your mind back in a condition to start healing. Scientology needs to be alerted to the fact that if their parishioners express suicidal ideation, they should be directed immediately to Tony and Mike for a cure. If only that was possible.
Scientology should be shut down!!!
Yes, Very good point.
Isn't in PAB 6? I couldn't even tell you what the other PAB's were. The fact that we ever trusted these people to "help" us makes me ill.
Yes, thank you. It’s like hiring a black widow to sting you to treat your food poisening.
What you say about Pat Broeker's speech is true, and I was at that event at the Palladium. But it is never referenced at all. If you were not a Scientologist in 1986 you would not know about it.
At various times Dave has made speeches that cover Scientology history. The Palladium event is never mentioned. I don't even remember hearing the phrase "causitively dropped his body" or similar, maybe something like "having completed his research".
Dave is probably very aware that the Pat Broeker speech makes his "religion" a death cult and has distanced himself from it completely. Hard to get IRS recognition for a death cult, even in the US of A.
Of course, I speak as someone who never even went Clear, never heard about the upper levels until after I was out. So it is very likely I just never heard about it because it was confidential.
All I thought I recalled was the big clip of Miscavige saying LRH discarded his body... but maybe he said 'dropped' and I am mis-remembering.
"And he talked and talked to her: ”Think of your husband, think of your children, think of…” and so on and he talked and talked to her. He couldn’t get her to come back and pick up the body at all. Until all of a sudden he happened to think, “Think of your poor auditor,” and she came back and picked up the body."
That's a very un-Scientologist way of thinking, no? You're supposed to live many lifetimes. These are just your children or family members in this lifetime. I thought you weren't supposed to care about them.
Also, 'think of your poor Auditor'? Were they going to get in trouble if they couldn't get them to pick up the body?
She would have “red tagged” at exam and the auditor would have had to go to cramming.
Wow, a light year is a 66 ft? The things you learn from L. Ron Hubbard.
Scientology math.
Obfuscation, head fakes, and straight out lies are the ways the Clampire rolls. Watch for the CO$ start calling their 'drop the body' routine something like Catholic Last Rites or something similar. As for the history of 'drop the body', too many people know about it to keep it hidden. It will come out in court and I hope that the Mills family gets all of the nefarious actions on record.
The CO$ inability to use proper medical procedures to treat mental illness is just another way they are an insular, high control 'religion'. They need to be subject to laws that mandate treatment like those laws that require doctors to treat any patient, regardless of ability to pay. I would like to add the laws that regard several Christian groups that practice snake handling, but that only applies to people over the age of 18. The Jehovah's Witnesses have similar problems with blood transfusion, but I think that only applies to children too.
Hubbard, for legal reasons could not be known as Managing Agent or "captain" or CEO or Commander in Chief of the whole entity (Scientology).
So his title was CONSULTANT. (When he was in hiding ~ 6 years)
The Consultant send down "advices" often confidential and certainly not for the red volumes.
The advices were adhered to 100%, after all, he was Hubbard, the SOURCE.
The "End of Life assist" was an advice, not an HCOB (bulletin)
Step One was to check INT.
that is to see if the client could move in and out of the body without charge based on the fact
that the doctrines are that one is a spirit inhabiting a body.
2nd step is to run around a heavenly body after death because Hubbard said one is totally displaced
and needs the stability of an anchor point.
I should probably do a video on it.
To deny the existence of this is a jaw dropping LIE
The OT-8 ex husband is really going to Drop His Body soon. I have written about this recently. But, he still thinks he can go one and on because he is OT-8. His cancer is devouring him. He attended that Palladium Event. Where was I? Home & pregnant with child # 4...The wasband (ex husband,) never cared about me. Also, I feel that I remembered that poor John Travolta tried to bring his son back using the "technique from Hubbard."