Kirstie Alley’s children True and Lillie Stevenson put out a statement today that their mother had died after a short battle with cancer. The Cheers actress was 71. She’s also been known as one of Scientology’s most well-known celebrities, and an often very vocal defender of the organization.
I was not planning to post today...the story of Lisa is so sad and horrific. I always do remember her on this day and I hope that, Tony, you continue to post this every year. It is such an important story.
What made me decide to post was seeing the news on Kirstie...another OT who has passed away from cancer. I knew Kirstie. She was nice to me and welcoming. Regardless of all her club BS and involvement, comments, etc., which I was as turned off by as everyone else, it still saddens me when I hear that someone I know has died. When will those in come to realize that the scam is what it is...a scam. We all know that John Travolta was a close friend of hers. Between the death of his wife and close friend, I hope that he opens his eyes. Come on, John.
That's.... a lot of feels. Idolized her for most of my life. Felt almost like a friend's betrayal with the political sharp turn and vitriol. Currently also doing the cancer thing, this'll be my second xmas on that particular battlefield. Weird, weird day for her to exit. Whole lot of feels.
Well I didn’t like her brash displays of vitriol toward some who speak the truth about the abuses and lack of promised results of her “church,” but my condolences to her children. Maybe her young demise will be the breaking point on their waking up to that truth
I believe John Travolta was quoted by People Mag as expressing his sadness at the loss of his beloved friend, Kirstie, and saying he knows ..."he will see her again." How will he know?? Do they reincarnate in the same physical body? Isn't John still watching out for LRH (who is suspiciously late in returning...) What if she is reborn in Poland or Nigeria or something? One must wonder...
How do Scientologists explain away the death of an OT VIII? An OT 8 is supposed to have cause over MEST, so how do they reconcile the death of someone who was very sick while that person supposedly had control over everything? I’ve never really understood that, to be honest.
It is so hard to not say something unkind about her because she was so vociferously cruel to so many she found not to her liking. I do hope she was kinder to those she loved. My condolences to those who loved her.
The very first time I ever saw her was on Match Game TV game show in the 1970s and she was actually a little bit snippy and disrespectful to the host, Gene Rayburn That always stuck with me. Quite often, after people die, we tend to put them up on a pedestal and show a reverence that we never would have shown when they were living. I do feel sadness for her family left behind to grieve her. She was after all a mother and grandmother and certainly had many loved ones. I do feel sympathy for them. I am not certain of how kindly she may or may not have treated others. Much of her writing and commentary is still available and of course she was free to disagree with others; but she takes with her whatever she knew about Scientology's shenanigans, and who knows what she really knew. As far as her health, her family's statement says her diagnosis was recent. She did sell her Los Feliz house last year and has been here in Florida full time for a couple of years. Moffitt is an excellent cancer research and treatment center in Tampa, a short drive from Clearwater, and likely not somewhere any Sea Org folks would be encouraged (allowed?) to go. I have all sorts of questions about the OT8 thing and curing herself. Don't these people or their families or those around them see that they do not in fact have super powers and that they are just like the rest of us?!
I am sorry she died so young, but I wonder if she put off going to the doctor until it was too late to treat her cancer. Other than pancreatic cancer which is often discovered late since it is hard to detect, my impression is that most people don't die of cancer just after it is discovered. Death after a brief illness is usually from an infectious and fast moving disease, not a cancer. That's why with cancer they usually talk about the five year survival rate. So it seems pretty likely that scientology killed her because they don't believe in medical treatment and she waited too long.
I'm sure that she was a much different person to her family and friends than she was to those she perceived as beneath her (or her enemies), and I'm sorry for those friends' and that family's loss.
As I posted over at the Bunker:
I was not planning to post today...the story of Lisa is so sad and horrific. I always do remember her on this day and I hope that, Tony, you continue to post this every year. It is such an important story.
What made me decide to post was seeing the news on Kirstie...another OT who has passed away from cancer. I knew Kirstie. She was nice to me and welcoming. Regardless of all her club BS and involvement, comments, etc., which I was as turned off by as everyone else, it still saddens me when I hear that someone I know has died. When will those in come to realize that the scam is what it is...a scam. We all know that John Travolta was a close friend of hers. Between the death of his wife and close friend, I hope that he opens his eyes. Come on, John.
Condolences to Kirstie's family and friends.
And Lisa...we will never forget. ❤️ RIP
It’s hard to know what to say. At least she got out of Scientology! 
That's.... a lot of feels. Idolized her for most of my life. Felt almost like a friend's betrayal with the political sharp turn and vitriol. Currently also doing the cancer thing, this'll be my second xmas on that particular battlefield. Weird, weird day for her to exit. Whole lot of feels.
Dang! Another OT 8.
Well I didn’t like her brash displays of vitriol toward some who speak the truth about the abuses and lack of promised results of her “church,” but my condolences to her children. Maybe her young demise will be the breaking point on their waking up to that truth
I believe John Travolta was quoted by People Mag as expressing his sadness at the loss of his beloved friend, Kirstie, and saying he knows ..."he will see her again." How will he know?? Do they reincarnate in the same physical body? Isn't John still watching out for LRH (who is suspiciously late in returning...) What if she is reborn in Poland or Nigeria or something? One must wonder...
So many people wishing her “Rest In Peace.” Oh the irony! Rest? In peace? That’s the last thing any Scientologist would want to do.
How do Scientologists explain away the death of an OT VIII? An OT 8 is supposed to have cause over MEST, so how do they reconcile the death of someone who was very sick while that person supposedly had control over everything? I’ve never really understood that, to be honest.
It is so hard to not say something unkind about her because she was so vociferously cruel to so many she found not to her liking. I do hope she was kinder to those she loved. My condolences to those who loved her.
The very first time I ever saw her was on Match Game TV game show in the 1970s and she was actually a little bit snippy and disrespectful to the host, Gene Rayburn That always stuck with me. Quite often, after people die, we tend to put them up on a pedestal and show a reverence that we never would have shown when they were living. I do feel sadness for her family left behind to grieve her. She was after all a mother and grandmother and certainly had many loved ones. I do feel sympathy for them. I am not certain of how kindly she may or may not have treated others. Much of her writing and commentary is still available and of course she was free to disagree with others; but she takes with her whatever she knew about Scientology's shenanigans, and who knows what she really knew. As far as her health, her family's statement says her diagnosis was recent. She did sell her Los Feliz house last year and has been here in Florida full time for a couple of years. Moffitt is an excellent cancer research and treatment center in Tampa, a short drive from Clearwater, and likely not somewhere any Sea Org folks would be encouraged (allowed?) to go. I have all sorts of questions about the OT8 thing and curing herself. Don't these people or their families or those around them see that they do not in fact have super powers and that they are just like the rest of us?!
Where was Tom?…helping where no one else can
I am sorry she died so young, but I wonder if she put off going to the doctor until it was too late to treat her cancer. Other than pancreatic cancer which is often discovered late since it is hard to detect, my impression is that most people don't die of cancer just after it is discovered. Death after a brief illness is usually from an infectious and fast moving disease, not a cancer. That's why with cancer they usually talk about the five year survival rate. So it seems pretty likely that scientology killed her because they don't believe in medical treatment and she waited too long.
What a perfectly worded article about an icon and female comedic artist. Thank you for remembering Lisa in such a tasteful way.
I'm sure that she was a much different person to her family and friends than she was to those she perceived as beneath her (or her enemies), and I'm sorry for those friends' and that family's loss.
WOW! OT 8 Too!!!!!
She could have lived but chose not to. Hard to feel bad for her. I feel bad for her kids who are most likely brainwashed too.
At least one less scientologist in the world.